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	<link>http://www.pileofsassy.com/2007/01/08/watch-out-twin-cities-glbt-folks-its-the-gender-police/</link>
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		<title>By: Sassy!</title>
		<link>http://www.pileofsassy.com/2007/01/08/watch-out-twin-cities-glbt-folks-its-the-gender-police/#comment-10514</link>
		<author>Sassy!</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 02:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed 210%.
Thank you for this thoughtful comment!</description>
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<p>Agreed 210%.<br />
Thank you for this thoughtful comment!
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		<title>By: tara</title>
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		<author>tara</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 22:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, this is sad to hear.  I'm transgendered and have not visited many gay bars, but I would have assumed that if there was anywhere on the planet that would be understanding of my situation, it would be such establishments.  I've used the bathroom of my target gender in many public places without incident.  Sad to hear that Twin City gay bars fall short of the tolerance often found elsewhere around town.

If advocates of civil rights want to keep talking about the "GLBT community", then members of the first three letters of that acronym should be taking the lead in treating "T" people with dignity and respect, not trailing behind the pack.</description>
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<p>Wow, this is sad to hear.  I&#8217;m transgendered and have not visited many gay bars, but I would have assumed that if there was anywhere on the planet that would be understanding of my situation, it would be such establishments.  I&#8217;ve used the bathroom of my target gender in many public places without incident.  Sad to hear that Twin City gay bars fall short of the tolerance often found elsewhere around town.</p>
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<p>If advocates of civil rights want to keep talking about the &#8220;GLBT community&#8221;, then members of the first three letters of that acronym should be taking the lead in treating &#8220;T&#8221; people with dignity and respect, not trailing behind the pack.
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		<title>By: Natalie</title>
		<link>http://www.pileofsassy.com/2007/01/08/watch-out-twin-cities-glbt-folks-its-the-gender-police/#comment-9950</link>
		<author>Natalie</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 04:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I can see the points. I do believe that the plumbers union should get involved and help pass an ordiance that makes it required to have bathrooms for Males Females and TG's in all public establishments....Just like sprinklers, cost allot to install but prevents deaths and saves lives. (I am just dying to pee is all, without getting arrested or kicked out or having to kill someone because I couldn't!)

Politics does make strange bedfellows you know....

Natalie, Secretary of:
City of the Lakes Crossgender Community  (CLCC)</description>
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<p>Well I can see the points. I do believe that the plumbers union should get involved and help pass an ordiance that makes it required to have bathrooms for Males Females and TG&#8217;s in all public establishments&#8230;.Just like sprinklers, cost allot to install but prevents deaths and saves lives. (I am just dying to pee is all, without getting arrested or kicked out or having to kill someone because I couldn&#8217;t!)</p>
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<p>Politics does make strange bedfellows you know&#8230;.</p>
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<p>Natalie, Secretary of:<br />
City of the Lakes Crossgender Community  (CLCC)
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		<title>By: Stephanie P.</title>
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		<author>Stephanie P.</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 03:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a victim of the potty patrol at the townhouse about 18 months ago. I am MTF and at that time was visiting the TH and was asked by the guard  at the rest room door if I had a penis. I was humiliated by this and mostly felt like I was stabbed in the back by a friend at a place I needed to be. I DID write to the manager but never got a reply. It still hurts to think of this. I hope to see you at PI.
Stephanie P.</description>
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<p>I was a victim of the potty patrol at the townhouse about 18 months ago. I am MTF and at that time was visiting the TH and was asked by the guard  at the rest room door if I had a penis. I was humiliated by this and mostly felt like I was stabbed in the back by a friend at a place I needed to be. I DID write to the manager but never got a reply. It still hurts to think of this. I hope to see you at PI.<br />
Stephanie P.
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		<title>By: Sassy!</title>
		<link>http://www.pileofsassy.com/2007/01/08/watch-out-twin-cities-glbt-folks-its-the-gender-police/#comment-9941</link>
		<author>Sassy!</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 22:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.  I do not think that the number of bathroom stalls is enough for the occupancy of the bar.</description>
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<p>I agree.  I do not think that the number of bathroom stalls is enough for the occupancy of the bar.
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		<title>By: Sassy!</title>
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		<author>Sassy!</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 22:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think I did (or didn't do) anything "bogus."
I talked to the security guard working the (bathroom) door about the policy and wrote up what I was told.
If I ever choose to go back to the TH (I haven't yet), I would talk to the manager before doing so.</description>
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<p>I don&#8217;t think I did (or didn&#8217;t do) anything &#8220;bogus.&#8221;<br />
I talked to the security guard working the (bathroom) door about the policy and wrote up what I was told.<br />
If I ever choose to go back to the TH (I haven&#8217;t yet), I would talk to the manager before doing so.
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		<title>By: Pauline</title>
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		<author>Pauline</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have for the last 12 years used whichever potty I was dressed for. Never before transition or after have I had a problem. the 90's had such a policy of potty checks in the 90's ( smile, just worked out that way) and even then I and most of my friends had no problems there either.

I hate lines and if there is a problem maybe the health department needs to check and see if there are not enough bathroon facilitys for the max occupancy of the bar..I would believe that ST. Paul would have regulations on this, they have on everything else.

Maybe they need to count heads for the number of people who can enter the bar based on the bathroom capasity.

just a thought.</description>
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<p>I have for the last 12 years used whichever potty I was dressed for. Never before transition or after have I had a problem. the 90&#8217;s had such a policy of potty checks in the 90&#8217;s ( smile, just worked out that way) and even then I and most of my friends had no problems there either.</p>
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<p>I hate lines and if there is a problem maybe the health department needs to check and see if there are not enough bathroon facilitys for the max occupancy of the bar..I would believe that ST. Paul would have regulations on this, they have on everything else.</p>
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<p>Maybe they need to count heads for the number of people who can enter the bar based on the bathroom capasity.</p>
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<p>just a thought.
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		<title>By: Leigh Smythe</title>
		<link>http://www.pileofsassy.com/2007/01/08/watch-out-twin-cities-glbt-folks-its-the-gender-police/#comment-9929</link>
		<author>Leigh Smythe</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would agree that this is bogus, but it has never happened to me.  I use the room that matches my attire.  I thought this was taken care of.  Has anyone written to Holly (the owner) about this?  I, also, think it is bogus to complain about something with out involving the ownership.  Townhouse has a website that is read by the owner.
On another front, I taked to Paul, the manager of the Gay 90's, and was told that I could use the room that matches my attire.</description>
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<p>I would agree that this is bogus, but it has never happened to me.  I use the room that matches my attire.  I thought this was taken care of.  Has anyone written to Holly (the owner) about this?  I, also, think it is bogus to complain about something with out involving the ownership.  Townhouse has a website that is read by the owner.<br />
On another front, I taked to Paul, the manager of the Gay 90&#8217;s, and was told that I could use the room that matches my attire.
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		<title>By: Meredith</title>
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		<author>Meredith</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 17:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can understand the club's reasons for going by the ID - I don't necessarily think it was the right choice, but I can see where they're coming from.</description>
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<p>I can understand the club&#8217;s reasons for going by the ID - I don&#8217;t necessarily think it was the right choice, but I can see where they&#8217;re coming from.
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